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Dentside Parts Truck Pictures

NOTE: This page is more of a 'dentside' photo reference page than anything else, just for my own personal reference. However, I decided to post these pictures, in case someone else might be able to use them for any reason.

Because of the number of photos on this page, it may take a moment to download...please be patient. Click on thumbnails to enlarge.


FYI - The '67-'72 truck on the left is a 'bumpside' and the '73-'79 truck on the right is a 'dentside', both for obvious reasons.

January 07, 2007  -  I didn't really know for sure whether to post this in this section or in the choptop progress section, but decided to just put it here.

For those of you who haven't been keeping track of my doing's on the FORDification.com forums, this update has been long overdue....in fact, almost 6 months overdue! Sorry about that, there's just been a lot going on. I'm not going to give you all the details, but here's the quick run-down:

In August I bought another project truck...a '68 F100 SWB 2WD, with a 7" chop! It's an unfinished project truck. My family and I drove out to Michigan in October to trailer it back. For more information on this, CLICK HERE.

I haven't had a lot of shop time over the past few months...life's just been too busy...and the few days I did get off I felt I needed to get some website additions and maintenance done. Right now my '67 is getting close to being ready to paint...well, at least the cab and front sheetmetal is. However, it's too cold out to do that right now, so I've decided to make the choptop truck my wintertime project. It's going to be my 'rat rod', more or less, and the goal is to thrash on it and slap it together, and have it street-worthy by springtime.

When I first bought my '67 back in June 2003, I had a friend named Ray who was really into the '73-'79 trucks but had a couple bumpside parts trucks on his property too, and was told I could take whatever I wanted from them for my project. I stripped them down completely for parts and one of the carcasses was hauled off, the other saved for a box trailer. (You can read about these on Page 2, Page 3 and Page 4). He had a number of '73-'79 'dent-side' trucks out there as well, but at the time I wasn't aware the parts interchanged, so I didn't take anything from them except for the radiator support from a '77 and the disc brake setup from a '78.

Fast forward 2-1/2 years....I ran into Ray a few months ago and he mentioned that he wanted to get some junk parts trucks cleaned off his property and was hoping to get it done before winter. I told him I'd be interested in getting a few things from them before he hauled them off and he agreed. Well, things have been so busy that I haven't had a chance to get back out there until today. This photo page is more than just a rundown on the day's activities....since he's got so many dentsides, I took the opportunity to take a lot of detail pictures of his trucks, just as a reference source. I'm posting them all here as such.

Fig. 01 shows a small part of Ray's Ford collection. I was given permission to get parts from the black/red '77 4x4 Ranger (second from left) and the grey '78 Supercab (far right). The carcass of the '70 Ranger that I parted out 3 years ago is still here (far left)...Ray kept the box/frame/suspension to make a box trailer. The red/white '76 or '77 Highboy (third from right) belongs to Ray's dad, and I wasn't allowed to take anything from it. (His dad is 90-something years old, lives in a nursing home and has no driver's license...but he "might need it some day". LOL Oh well....)


Fig. 01 - Ray's Ford collection.
The main things I wanted today was a dentside hood and inner fenderwell set.
1977 F150 4x4 Ranger XLT

     This '77 was pretty much in this condition when Ray got it years ago. It had a 351M/400 that's been open to the elements for so long it's no longer salvageable. He saved it as a parts truck but really hasn't gotten anything from it, so he decided to let it go. This truck donated it's radiator support and inner fenders to me back on Page 3. Later, deciding I didn't need the inner fenders, they were tossed out. (The radiator support is currently powder-coated and mounted on my '67.) I came back today to get another set of inner fenders....which are probably destined for the choptop truck for a future installation tutorial.
     I was able to get the following parts from this one today: power brake booster and master cylinder, brake pedal and mounting bracket, accelerator pedal and rod and the rust-free/dent-free hood. This truck also has true factory power steering (Fig. 04), but unfortunately he'd already promised those parts to someone else.


Fig. 02


Fig. 03


Fig. 04

1978 F150 2WD Supercab

     Back on Page 22, this '78 Supercab supplied the complete front disc brake set-up that's currently mounted on my '67, as well as the power brake booster. Today it donated it's very nice inner fenders, as well as the hood latch, accelerator pedal, brake pedal and mounting bracket, Saginaw power steering box, steering column (automatic, non-tilt), engine perches, and add-on cruise control components. (While it is an add-on system, it appears to use the factory underdash brain box, so I grabbed everything except the sensor for the driveshaft.)

Fig. 05 - Ray is saving this '78 as a parts truck for his other '79 Supercab...an F350 4x4 (shown farther down on this page). The front sheetmetal is in very good condition, though the cab and box are totally rusted out.

Fig. 06 - Removing the right-side outer fender to get to the inner fender. This was in extremely nice shape...the underside was nice and shiny.

Fig. 07 - Just another quick shot of the truck, after pulling all the inner fender bolts, prior to pulling it out.

Fig. 08 - shows the cable-type accelerator linkage. (I had removed the bolts to salvage this before it dawned on me I should take a picture.)

Fig. 09 - Another  accelerator cable and brackets shot. The silver L-bracket bolted to this is the mounting bracket for the cruise control servo. You can also see the Saginaw PS box prior to removal, but after I removed the steering column.

Fig. 10 - Decal with A/C charging instructions, mounted on the radiator support.

 

Fig. 11 - Radiator filling instructions, also affixed to the radiator support.


Fig.
12 (above) - Fig 13 (below)

These two shots are simply close-ups of the inner fender mounting bracket attachment point.

Fig. 14 - A close-up of the hood latch and grille shell support bracket. The support bracket won't be used when I attempt to install this latch on my choptop truck.

Fig. 15 - A close-up of the plastic gas pedal pivot bracket. I was never aware that these were changed from pot-metal to plastic in '78.

Fig. 16 - The floorpan grommet for the e-brake cable.

Fig. 17 - A lighter delete dash plug

Fig. 18 - A view of the safety sticker mounted on the lower left dash area.

Fig. 19 - The redesigned transmission tunnel included clearance for big automatic transmissions, so a removable tunnel cover was no longer required for these applications.

Fig. 20 - The stock radio mounting and heater/AC mounts

Fig. 21 - A view of the dash panel with the front bezels removed.


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     These are the engine perches in question. Ray swears that he knows the complete history of this truck, that is was special-ordered from the factory with a 300cid I6 and a C4 transmission. He pulled the engine and sold it some time back. However, these are definitely different from the I6/FE perches that we've all seen from the pre-'78 trucks. So...are these a new I6 perch design, going along with many of the other changes made for the '78 model year? I didn't notice this until I came home and was looking at these pictures, but it appears as if the front crossmember isn't as wide (front-to-back) as the pre-'78 trucks. Was the front crossmember redesigned, meaning the perches would also have to be reconfigured? Will these work in pre-'78 trucks? Will these still also work with the FE engines?
     I had to get to the bottom of this, so I grabbed these and brought them home, and I'm going to be doing some close comparison of these with the pre-'78 perches.

Misc. Pictures


Fig. 25

Ray had this '78 front end sitting around, and I was able to get the left-side inner fender, the radiator support and hood hinges from it.


Fig. 26


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Here's a couple shots of Ray's heavy-duty hydraulic wood splitter. He was splitting firewood while I was there, and unfortunately some welds in the splitter let go. He had to put in a call to the local welder with the big guns.

1969 Ford Galaxie

Fig. 28 - Ray has had this Galaxie for some time now, but has no use for it. Being the Ford lover that he is, he's been hanging onto this to give to someone who can use it for something other than a demolition derby. In his words "I'd rather part it out than for someone to derby it." Anyway, after hearing some reports online that the Galaxies front frame spacing was identical to our bumpside trucks, I decided to check it out. Why? Well, this would make a great sub-frame donor, if 'someone' wanted to clip the front of his truck, not only giving him coil springs and a true IFS, but would lower the front end considerably as well. I measured the frame and was pleasantly surprised to find it's exactly 34"...the same as our trucks. I told Ray of my ideas, and he told me that if he can't find someone to take it off his hands, we'll talk. So I decided to take this pictures of the engine bay for reference. It's currently set up for a 302, column-shift 3-speed transmission and manual steering.


Fig. 29

Fig. 30

Fig. 31

Since it's kind of hard to visualize what the frame looks like with the body still attached, I whipped up this quick diagram. The black line shows you the route the frame takes. The red line is where the rear part of the frame would be cut off. The red arrow points to the transmission crossmember stub. It sticks out from the front sub-frame about 12"-14" and would need trimmed off as well. The sub-frame could then be butted up to the rear section of Ford truck frame and welded on.


Fig. 32

Fig. 33

Fig. 34

Fig. 35

Rear Suspension Components
  Rear Spring
Lift Block(s)
Rear spring,
rear mount
Rear spring,
front mount
1977 F150 4x4
Fig. 36 - 3" blocks

Fig. 37

Fig. 38
1977 F250 Highboy
Fig. 40 - 4" blocks

Fig. 41

Fig. 42

1979 F350 4x4 Ranger Lariat Supercab

     This '79 is a very well-optioned truck, and is Ray's project truck. He hasn't worked on it for a while, but it's the truck that he really wants to restore some day....and from these pictures you'll be able to see why. First of all, as I understand it, 1979 was the only year that Ford made an F350 4x4....and with all the options this truck has, it's definitely a keeper. From the factory it was equipped with power steering, power front disc brakes, A/C, AM/FM stereo radio, an ultra-rare floor-shift tilt steering column, front/rear sway bars, auxiliary in-frame fuel tank, dual horns, dual batteries and a front Dana HD 60 differential.


Fig. 43


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Fig. 45


Fig. 46


Fig. 47 - Camper shell emblem


Fig. 48

This is a factory Ford Four-Seasons bed topper. It definitely needs a good scrubbing to remove the lichens and tree sap, but otherwise it's in great shape.


Fig. 49 - Notice the dual horns and auxiliary battery tray

Here's a shot of the engine bay. There are several things to take notice of here: the angled front frame crossmember (to clear the power-steering box), the Saginaw steering pump and of course the MUCH sought-after HD Dana 60 front differential...the best of the best.


Fig. 50


Fig. 51 - Rear Dana 60


Fig. 52- Rear Dana 60


Fig.53 - 4-spd tilt column


Fig. 54


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Fig. 56


Fig. 57 - clearance light wiring


Fig. 58


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Fig. 60 - Front Dana 60


Fig. 61

 

 
In Conclusion: The dentside parts I got today...

     I took the following shots as I was unloading the day's haul at my shop.


Fig. 62 - inner fenders


Fig. 63 - rust-free radiator support


Fig. 64 - Saginaw PS box


Fig. 65 - very nice '77 hood

Fig. 66 - hood latch close-up

Fig. 67 - hood catch close-up


Fig. 68- '78 engine perches. Not completely sure right now what they fit, though Ray says they're for a 300 I6.

Fig. 69- aft-axle fuel tank mounting brackets (I think?)

Fig. 70- A '77 and a '78 brake pedal and bracket...plus add-on cruise control brain box.

Fig.
71- '78 steering column

Fig. 72- Add-on cruise controls
 
 

So....here's what going to happen....tentatively:

     I will be attempting to install the inner fenders, radiator support and hood onto the choptop truck. I'll be taking notes and pictures for a future installation tutorial. The main reason I want to install the hood is to see if it's possible...and if it does, I'll also be able to install a remote hood release mechanism I have.

      The steering column was obtained solely for another tutorial...to get the installation down on paper...errr...on a webpage, that is. Since the emergency flasher is mounted on the column on the dentside trucks, there's a little bit of wiring work necessary to mount these in a bumpside truck that needs to be documented. I'm also curious about how different the internal components are from the bumpside columns, so after I document the column installation, it will be removed and disassembled, and the parts will be compared to the earlier bumpside columns.

     The brake pedals and brackets were also obtained just to see if they'd fit. Since some bumpside owners are wondering about adding the wider brake pedal that came installed on automatic-transmission trucks, I wanted to answer that question once and for all.

     And as for the engine perches...I just want to verify what engine they fit, and if they ARE for the I6, if they'll also still work on the FE engines like the pre-'78 versions.

 

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