Dana 44 swap

Aesop · Post by **Aesop** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:38 am

My 67 F250 4x4 will be getting the axle treatment very soon. I have read the forums and tech pages for power steering set up, and have purchased a 74 D44 with discs and calipers. I have measured the pads and they look to be the same. I bought the entire power steering package from a 76 F250 2wd. I am confident I can do the mods.

Unfortunately the ratio for the front is 3.54 and the rear is 4.56. I think I want the rear to match the front, and my confidence has turned into a quivering mass of bovine excrement. Regearing a Dana 60 requires proper setup and special tooling(I think). Gear sets and rebuild kits and shop fee's will destroy my budget. I am not building a trailer queen, this is my truck.

My question is this........should I buy another D60 or regear? If I regear, do I have to totally rebuild it? Can I use used gears?
Thanx

boots · Post by **boots** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:28 am

im not sure if you have to re-gear it, I really dont think you do.....but I would never buy used gears.

heep70 · Post by **heep70** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:00 pm

If you re-gear it you will need to purchase another carrier to handle the 3:54 R&P. As far as a total rebuild, "Yes". Just the center though.

It would cost you allot more to re-gear, but you might spend some time finding a good 3:54 9"rearend.

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heep70 · Post by **heep70** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:05 pm

Check it out, a 9" 3:54 rearend.

http://fordification.com/forum/viewtopi ... 2809#52809

boots · Post by **boots** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:08 pm

boots wrote:im not sure if you have to re-gear it, I really dont think you do.....but I would never buy used gears.

sorry typo, I meant I was not sure if you would have to re-build it.

anyways yea look into that 9" rear end.

Aesop · Post by **Aesop** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:08 pm

Alrighty then. I will look for a 3.54 rear end and swap it. Mckenna is a bit far to drive for a rear end. I will get a Dana 60 due to the fact I just replaced every brake componant, and I can reuse most of it. I will read the forums again and find what years have the same width spring perches. I don't have a cutting torch, just a welder. I need to keep this truck under budget. I AM going to get this truck done as a budget rod. I will be painting in Jan. I have to get the frame work and suspension completed. I will post some pics as soon as I can figure out how to post pics. Thanx guys.

heep70 · Post by **heep70** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:05 pm

You did say a F250,

sorry. It might be a bite harder to find a D60 w/ 3:54.

oldschoolrods · Post by **oldschoolrods** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 7:15 pm

boots wrote:im not sure if you have to re-gear it, I really dont think you do.....but I would never buy used gears.

used gears are ok as long as someone has marked the backlash, pinon depth and runout on them but that never happens

Aesop · Post by **Aesop** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:09 pm

O.K. I found a 3.55 Dana 60 from a '97 F350 for $200. Will the front 3.54 ratio work with this? Is the width the same and is the input shaft in the same place?
I will buy this after the holiday if it will fit.

boots · Post by **boots** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:15 pm

oldschoolrods wrote:
boots wrote:im not sure if you have to re-gear it, I really dont think you do.....but I would never buy used gears.
used gears are ok as long as someone has marked the backlash, pinon depth and runout on them but that never happens

yea, when I was looking for 4.10 gears (used) I could not find anyone that would list that stuff. So im just going to buy new gears when the time comes.

72hiboy4x4 · Post by **72hiboy4x4** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:45 pm

hey aesop, I may have what you need here. '71 dana 60 with full true-trac. PM me if you are interested.

never mind, I just wandered out to look and it has a 3:73 ratio.

4x4_Welder · Post by **4x4_Welder** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:01 pm

The 97 should be a 10.25" or 10.5", not a Dana. It would be the wrong bolt pattern at the hubs anyways. If you want one that will directly bolt up, it will have to be a 67-77, as far as I know. It may have to be a 67-72, they may have gone to wider springs in 73.

Aesop · Post by **Aesop** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:28 am

I thought the Dana 60 was a option on the 97 F350(?). However, the Sterling axles made for Ford will work just fine if the width is nearly the same. As far as I can tell face to face will be 1.4" wider on a Sterling. The axle should be a 6.5" stud pattern. 170mm stud pattern should be on the 99 and above(?) and does the ujoint input sit in the same place as my 67 yoke? Thanx

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