Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, in process)
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Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, in process)
I just ordered one of these guys: http://www.sunpro.com/product_detail.php?pid=16305
Yep, a top pivot voltmeter that hopefully can be made to look similiar to the other original dash guages. I almost bought the mechanical oil pressure and water temp guages (and still might). They were all 60` sweep.
Once it's here I'll get rid of the shell and see what I need to do to back mount it like the original with an original alternator mounting plate and maybe even the pointer Then hopefully I can figure out some cool way to make a new 'VOLT' label and finally know how my battery is doing.
Jamie
Yep, a top pivot voltmeter that hopefully can be made to look similiar to the other original dash guages. I almost bought the mechanical oil pressure and water temp guages (and still might). They were all 60` sweep.
Once it's here I'll get rid of the shell and see what I need to do to back mount it like the original with an original alternator mounting plate and maybe even the pointer Then hopefully I can figure out some cool way to make a new 'VOLT' label and finally know how my battery is doing.
Jamie
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Re: Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, maybe)
Jamie,
Shayne, (moderator Thunderfoot) was doing this years ago to the F-600 panels gauges.
He has a thread here somewhere with a lot of info on how he did it I thought might help.
http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... =2&t=39982&
Shayne, (moderator Thunderfoot) was doing this years ago to the F-600 panels gauges.
He has a thread here somewhere with a lot of info on how he did it I thought might help.
http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... =2&t=39982&
Jeff
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Re: Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, maybe)
Yeah but F-600's use regular style gauges (pivot on the bottom). I wanted something with the same style sweep as stock for the guys with stock clusters.basketcase0302 wrote:Jamie,
Shayne, (moderator Thunderfoot) was doing this years ago to the F-600 panels gauges.
He has a thread here somewhere with a lot of info on how he did it I thought might help.
http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... =2&t=39982&
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Re: Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, maybe)
This will be an awesome upgrade for our trucks panels Jamie!
Jeff
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SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
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A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
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SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
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Re: Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, maybe)
Welp, look what showed up today
Size looks good, depth is good too. Even the stud spacing is within 3/16"... The OEM faceplate is held on by a crimp that some needle nose pliers released in a minutes work.
Used my belt sander to seperate the front cover from the rest of the gauge.
Not bad...
Looks like about two minutes of round filing to get the holes offset enough to put the factory electrical isolators back in place. The foil should be cutable with scissors. The studs are even the same thread pitch as the original gauge.
Finally a money shot (larger if you click on it). The old fuzzy lens is missing and overall I'm really impressed by this. Other than making a new faceplate I have about ten minutes into it so far. It's hard to see, but the Sunpro gauge face is held on the guage by two tiny phillips screws. The simplest thing looks to be just redrill the OEM faceplate and apply a sticker with the voltage points. The gauge has a calibration pot so it shouldn't be too hard to get the pointer to line up with the marks.
More to come...
Jamie
Size looks good, depth is good too. Even the stud spacing is within 3/16"... The OEM faceplate is held on by a crimp that some needle nose pliers released in a minutes work.
Used my belt sander to seperate the front cover from the rest of the gauge.
Not bad...
Looks like about two minutes of round filing to get the holes offset enough to put the factory electrical isolators back in place. The foil should be cutable with scissors. The studs are even the same thread pitch as the original gauge.
Finally a money shot (larger if you click on it). The old fuzzy lens is missing and overall I'm really impressed by this. Other than making a new faceplate I have about ten minutes into it so far. It's hard to see, but the Sunpro gauge face is held on the guage by two tiny phillips screws. The simplest thing looks to be just redrill the OEM faceplate and apply a sticker with the voltage points. The gauge has a calibration pot so it shouldn't be too hard to get the pointer to line up with the marks.
More to come...
Jamie
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Re: Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, in process)
Looks good Jamie, and it's a much needed part addition for our trucks for sure!
Jeff
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SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
2008 Ford Escape 4 x 4
http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=46251
SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
2008 Ford Escape 4 x 4
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Re: Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, in process)
Ok, another brief update...
3/8" roundfile work
Red isolator thingies. I'll probably goop some RTV on the voltmeter once I'm done with it as a more stable and permanent isolator.
Back of voltmeter with the ammeter faceplate. Notice little round file
I used my bandsaw and file cut it using just the teeth as a file. Then drilled the holes with my trusty 1/16" drill bit.
And it looks pretty good. The pointer is a little fatter than the OEM but I don't know if it's worth the effort to file it thinner without buggering the mechanism. I am going to paint the other pointers florescent red next time I find it in a can locally.
As a side note, I won an auction for all three gauges so I guess I'll be installing a mechanical oil pressure and water temp gauge too.
3/8" roundfile work
Red isolator thingies. I'll probably goop some RTV on the voltmeter once I'm done with it as a more stable and permanent isolator.
Back of voltmeter with the ammeter faceplate. Notice little round file
I used my bandsaw and file cut it using just the teeth as a file. Then drilled the holes with my trusty 1/16" drill bit.
And it looks pretty good. The pointer is a little fatter than the OEM but I don't know if it's worth the effort to file it thinner without buggering the mechanism. I am going to paint the other pointers florescent red next time I find it in a can locally.
As a side note, I won an auction for all three gauges so I guess I'll be installing a mechanical oil pressure and water temp gauge too.
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Re: Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, in process)
Very nice upgrade Jamie, Really like the way the old factory faced gauges can be update with modern gauges that work.
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Re: Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, in process)
So you be as different as you want to be:
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I also like the look of their LED dash light replacements sets... Keeps the Dimmer functionality too!
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I also like the look of their LED dash light replacements sets... Keeps the Dimmer functionality too!
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Here's a quick update. I spent some time today making the decals and am not totally impressed with how they turned out since I had to work within the limits of the label maker's program.
Some different versions. I ended up trying to make the text the same height as original but had trouble getting the text thin enough to look decent. Compromise was the word of the day.
Installed it doesn't look too bad but the new decal is much brighter and just different than the others.
Finally, a shot of the cluster in the truck, still no lens. I have the oil pressure and water temp coming so I think I'm going to just make a fuel level gauge too so they all match. I have a nice repro bezel for the cluster
I have some time off tomorrow after an 84hr week so I think I'm going to tinker with the truck some more.
Jamie
Some different versions. I ended up trying to make the text the same height as original but had trouble getting the text thin enough to look decent. Compromise was the word of the day.
Installed it doesn't look too bad but the new decal is much brighter and just different than the others.
Finally, a shot of the cluster in the truck, still no lens. I have the oil pressure and water temp coming so I think I'm going to just make a fuel level gauge too so they all match. I have a nice repro bezel for the cluster
I have some time off tomorrow after an 84hr week so I think I'm going to tinker with the truck some more.
Jamie
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Re: Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, in process)
This is pretty cool! My gauges don't work and I wish they did. I have the under dash set-up. I'd like to do this too. Thanks for sharing this.
I was getting envious of how clear your lense is.... then I read you hadn't re-installed it. LOL
I was getting envious of how clear your lense is.... then I read you hadn't re-installed it. LOL
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Plastic polish works wonders on them good sir.
Mail Monday, look what showed up today...
We'll start with the oil pressure, this is going to get interesting.
Belt sander for the win, not much to either gauge. New oil pressure is held by the fitting, the turn signal and high beam light wiring will need rerouted on the backplane...
Maybe if I thin out the Sunpro holder I can use it to hold the gauge at the correct depth. Or I might just use the fitting and figure out how to mount the OEM face to the Sunpro gauge. The Sunpro guage has a stop pin on the faceplate I'll have to work around too.
More to come
Mail Monday, look what showed up today...
We'll start with the oil pressure, this is going to get interesting.
Belt sander for the win, not much to either gauge. New oil pressure is held by the fitting, the turn signal and high beam light wiring will need rerouted on the backplane...
Maybe if I thin out the Sunpro holder I can use it to hold the gauge at the correct depth. Or I might just use the fitting and figure out how to mount the OEM face to the Sunpro gauge. The Sunpro guage has a stop pin on the faceplate I'll have to work around too.
More to come
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Re: Voltmeter vs. Ammeter (how to, in process)
nicely done...
As a metter of fact, i AM trying to keep up with the Jones'
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this is a really cool project - nice work!
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