ok so me and my pops are slowly but surely bringing back his 69' Ranger into the new millennium.
Friggin truck has given us problem after problem. Power steering pump went bad. Got swapped out so now that's good. Holley carb is wrecked with gas leaks everywhere. So that's going to get swapped for a newbie. But the real problem I have a question about is the flywheel and starter. Yesterday we took off the starter and the teeth were damaged. It was making a horrendous noise while cranking then just have out. So we got a new one and it continuous to make the same grinding, screeching noise while cranking. Are the starters different from year to year on the bumps. Or are the flywheels different from year to year. ? Should the flywheel have a spacer ?
The truck did have its flywheel replaced before we bought it so I'm thinking it might be the wrong one ? ...
Sorry about the length, I'm just really disturbed by the noise it makes on crank.
We also replaced the cable leading from silinoid to the starter. The silinoid is new and battery is good. When the starter was off we turned and inspected the flywheel is was damaged but nothing serious. As in only 2 teeth were broken in it, the Rest was ok.
EDVSU wrote: ok so me and my pops are slowly but surely bringing back his 69' Ranger into the new millennium.
Friggin truck has given us problem after problem. Power steering pump went bad. Got swapped out so now that's good. Holley carb is wrecked with gas leaks everywhere. So that's going to get swapped for a newbie. But the real problem I have a question about is the flywheel and starter. Yesterday we took off the starter and the teeth were damaged. It was making a horrendous noise while cranking then just have out. So we got a new one and it continuous to make the same grinding, screeching noise while cranking. Are the starters different from year to year on the bumps. Or are the flywheels different from year to year. ? Should the flywheel have a spacer ?
The truck did have its flywheel replaced before we bought it so I'm thinking it might be the wrong one ? ...
Sorry about the length, I'm just really disturbed by the noise it makes on crank.
Fe starters are the same from 65 up
All FE Flywheels from 65 up are the same except for the 428 and the 410.....The only difference in all the other ones from 65 up is the clutch size
cep62 wrote:Do you have the dust shield installed?
It's the thin metal plate that covers the front of the flywheel, it mounts between the block and tramnsmission.
EDVSU wrote:we got a new one
A good one or a cheap autozone "rebuild" ?
If you have a bad spot on the flywheel, try turning it a little with a wrench or the fan (ignition off) so it engages fresh teeth.
Dust shield, unfortunately it does not.
That's how we saw the fly wheel problems.
We did not turn the engine either. It cranked after a bit so we did get the engine to start. It still will start the problem is the noise. It sounds like the teeth are taking damage as the engine cranks on start up.
We got a cheap 40$ model from autozone.
I absolutely do not like. Fresh out of the box the starter felt wobbly. As in the pin with the gear that engages the fly wheel felt looser than it should.
tnlprt wrote:
EDVSU wrote: ok so me and my pops are slowly but surely bringing back his 69' Ranger into the new millennium.
Friggin truck has given us problem after problem. Power steering pump went bad. Got swapped out so now that's good. Holley carb is wrecked with gas leaks everywhere. So that's going to get swapped for a newbie. But the real problem I have a question about is the flywheel and starter. Yesterday we took off the starter and the teeth were damaged. It was making a horrendous noise while cranking then just have out. So we got a new one and it continuous to make the same grinding, screeching noise while cranking. Are the starters different from year to year on the bumps. Or are the flywheels different from year to year. ? Should the flywheel have a spacer ?
The truck did have its flywheel replaced before we bought it so I'm thinking it might be the wrong one ? ...
Sorry about the length, I'm just really disturbed by the noise it makes on crank.
Fe starters are the same from 65 up
All FE Flywheels from 65 up are the same except for the 428 and the 410.....The only difference in all the other ones from 65 up is the clutch size
NO SPACER
Ok. Makes sense since all the places didn't have the exact year I needed 69 390 starter so they gave me a 70 390 starter. The reason I ask this is I feel like the teeth on the starter are bigger than the ones on the fly wheel..
If you don't have the dust shield / plate that fits between the block and the trans, that could make the teeth engage too deep.
As band-aid you might try some thin washers under the starter to see if it helps.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I'll check out the bandaid fix meanwhile. Gonna try and see if it sounds better with the proper spacing. Be back soon with the news.
Oh one more thing. If a bump was manual and is now auto would the spacer/dust shield be needed or no ?
Reason I ask if bc the 69 has a different color steering wheel & column, maybe it was a 3 on the tree at some point. It's now 3 speed auto.
Thanks again.
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The pinion on a Ford fe starter is 1" in diameter 9 tooth. Due to general wear, sloppy tolerances, and often mismatched or missing parts, the pinion of the starter will "roll" against the flywheel. New pinion will fix temporarily; however, problem will reoccur very soon after. Rather than replace flywheel, often you can replace the 9th gear with a 10 tooth (part# 3-353) which is 2mm larger. This gear is from a Ford escort and can be found at any Alternator/Starter shop (don't even attempt the parts stores). I routinely change these on FE and Lima BB's which seem most susceptible to ring gear wear.
ok so me and my pops are slowly but surely bringing back his 69' Ranger into the new millennium. 
okay sounds like we're getting somewhere. 
